tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post83963257944472142..comments2023-11-02T04:30:54.674-04:00Comments on ULTIMATENYG: LB vs WRAndy F.http://www.blogger.com/profile/07020742034297033233noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-16699690611557107542009-01-25T16:05:00.000-05:002009-01-25T16:05:00.000-05:00Eli ran right into O'hara's back, not into the hol...Eli ran right into O'hara's back, not into the hole thats why it didn't work. Eli screwed up the sneak not O'haraCraighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07755845843766074261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-70780759091008182462009-01-25T01:00:00.000-05:002009-01-25T01:00:00.000-05:00Oxbay...You are incorrect about O'Hara. He got...Oxbay...<BR/><BR/>You are incorrect about O'Hara. He got enough push along with Snee & Seubert. When you run a sneak, the proper way to execute the play is for the QB to hesitate for a split second and see where the opening is...OR....to go very, very low immediately and get under the center or guard to pick up the the first down. The QB has to be committed to the play. It is all about instinct & desire.Mitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02151576898703507305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-32763947576194752542009-01-24T23:36:00.000-05:002009-01-24T23:36:00.000-05:00O'Hara is a probowler! Craig says. I understand th...O'Hara is a probowler! Craig says. I understand that. Here's what I want. I want my pro bowl center to block someone who is directly in front of him when it's 4th down and the quarterback that I root for is making a quarterback sneak. I want him to block his opponent far enough that my quarterback makes the first down. When the center doesn't make that block I can't say I'm really impressed that someone else can say he's "a probowler". Results count more than credentials.<BR/><BR/>That's just the description of one play in the last game the Giants played. There were other plays that were equally dismal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-43999157486411899262009-01-24T15:10:00.000-05:002009-01-24T15:10:00.000-05:00note to everybody, Goff is a mlb but got hurt in p...note to everybody, Goff is a mlb but got hurt in preseason, we dont need a backup mlb, we have blackburn who is pretty good, and a young goff.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07755845843766074261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-19719985126738109082009-01-24T15:08:00.000-05:002009-01-24T15:08:00.000-05:00A new center? O'hara is a probowler! we lost the p...A new center? O'hara is a probowler! we lost the philly game because the entire offense played like crap(gilbrown) but mainly Eli did shit in that game. Ok, if we aren't the best running team, we are in the top 5, there is no need to invest in a Rb, we will have jacobs, bradshaw, ware, and rueben droughn still(can we trade him, get like a 5th or something)<BR/><BR/>on offense all we need is a <BR/>1. No 1 WR <BR/>2. WR depth (returner?)<BR/>3. Oline depth<BR/><BR/>defense we need<BR/>1. SLB (kiwi is not anything special)<BR/>2. WLB (maybe kehl can take over here?)<BR/>3. DT depth (there is only alford)<BR/>4. SS (knight is gone)Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07755845843766074261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-301303363451083952009-01-24T12:20:00.000-05:002009-01-24T12:20:00.000-05:00Andy, I agree with you. I think the Giants could u...Andy, I agree with you. I think the Giants could use a new left tackle, at least and a new center. Sorry Sean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-48358713573877958542009-01-24T12:08:00.000-05:002009-01-24T12:08:00.000-05:00Oxbay- If I am drafting anywhere on offense, it is...Oxbay- If I am drafting anywhere on offense, it is OL. Yes, they play well together as a unit, but the game is won and lost at the line of scrimmage, and you never get hurt investing (drafting) in the OL. Keep the pressure on these guys to perform, and within a year or two you will be replacing them with guys that are drafted NOW.Andy F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07020742034297033233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-53766965622468145152009-01-24T12:04:00.000-05:002009-01-24T12:04:00.000-05:00Obviously a top flight WR would make Gilbrown's jo...Obviously a top flight WR would make Gilbrown's job easier.. he'd have less oppty to screw it up. And you can feel pretty good about how a healthy Tuck, Osi and Blitzing Kiwi (boy he was mostly invisible in the latter part of the season) could get that pass rush injecting new life into the team. But where the team can really become dominant is if it gets that LBer who makes an impact. Pierce made an impact in his earlier days as a Giant, and he still is a leader and presence on the field with his playcall tendencies. But physically he is no longer making plays; it is all downhill for the rest of this unit and it is by far and away the most glaring need for the team. If the Giants want to get a WR in free agency, fine. But LBers wear out, so you need to cultivate that in the draft. We got guys like Barrow and Pierce, and they are extremely perishable despite us being successful in identifying their ability to contribute. Woodley, Harrison, Willis... if this defense had an impact LBer it would truly transform the team. I think back to the dominance of the '97 defense, when you had a dominant lineman in Strahan, a dominant LBer in Armstead and a dominant Corner in Sehorn. To have one in all three units elevates the defense. Right now, the team has Tuck, Osi and Webster. LBer puts us over the top. It is the last word on the list of Giants Rules... DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.Andy F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07020742034297033233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-48618126530888306122009-01-24T11:54:00.000-05:002009-01-24T11:54:00.000-05:00I have to disagree with Craig who said at 4:14 the...I have to disagree with Craig who said at 4:14 the Giants had the "best running game in the league". I don't care what the numbers say. With 3rd or 4th down and 1 yard to go the best running game in the league would get the first down. Not only that but they would especially do it in the playoffs. Especially against an undersized defensive front like say the Philadelphia Eagles have. The best running game in the league would be like FedEx - when it absolutely positively had to be done it would be done.<BR/><BR/>The Giants have to revamp their offensive line. That would help keep the defense off the field as Bob, rightfully so, points out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-6809998506088716132009-01-24T11:20:00.000-05:002009-01-24T11:20:00.000-05:00I disagree.The Giants D was good in 2008 and will ...I disagree.<BR/><BR/>The Giants D was good in 2008 and will be better in 2009 with Osi back.The D was overworked by the poor performance of the O in late 2008. Look at the good stats our D had early in 2008, when the O was working. Our weakness was the O (no deep threat)late in the season.<BR/><BR/>Isn't it obvious that when we lost Burress, the O had great problems,except the Carolina game.<BR/>That's when and why we started losing games..... Even the Eagles said it was easier to defense us without Burress.<BR/><BR/>If we can land a top flight wideout in free agency, then I would go along.Most importantly, the weak link in our team in late 2008 was the O (1 TD in the last 2 games, by D. Carr !!) We must add a stud deep threat wideout .....A stronger O would tremendously help the D, by keeping it off the field.<BR/>If we do this in free agency, better yet, then spend the picks on LB's.<BR/><BR/>The TOP PRIORITY still is ejecting Gillbrown. I'm afraid that is a pipedream.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12473536605527134659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-55763297703456989302009-01-23T19:13:00.000-05:002009-01-23T19:13:00.000-05:00i don't watch college ftball, only pro ftball--i h...i don't watch college ftball, only pro ftball--i have too many other interests--so i cannot say which specific players the giants should look at. but this will change as i examine the scouting reports.<BR/><BR/>with our #1 and 2 #2's we should:<BR/><BR/>definite 1 lb:<BR/>pierce is getting old and we need a mlb stud more than olb. i think kiwi will be back at slb and will slip into the line to rush on 3rd-and-longs. kehl is fast and could be good at wlb especially coverage, we'll see. wilkerson is gone--just too injury prone, never got his career going. the other guys i believe are backup/special teams/spot starters.<BR/><BR/>probable s:<BR/>i like johnson and butler, but how about if we got another phillips-type to go with phillips. won't that be special.<BR/><BR/>possible 1 dl:<BR/>i wouldn't mind a stud dt as robbins is older and the other guys are good, but not great. i would not complain if they took a de early either because tuck can play some dt.<BR/><BR/>possible 1 wr:<BR/>i agree with nature about going after boldin, the others i'm not that interested in including tj. if not a trade then maybe 1 of the #2's.<BR/><BR/>possible 1 te:<BR/>paring boss with another dominant te would be great.<BR/><BR/>maybe cb:<BR/>i think we are ok with ross, webster, and thomas unless someone really slides.<BR/><BR/>not likely ol:<BR/>we are fine. need backups, but whimper should be back.<BR/><BR/>no rb:<BR/>we should sign jacobs, probably not ward, but we have bshaw and ware in line. only if we let both jacobs and ward go might we draft a rb.<BR/><BR/>no qb:<BR/>hopefully, we re-sign carr.xtianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18403376478677842532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-14920820704143832042009-01-23T19:05:00.000-05:002009-01-23T19:05:00.000-05:00I look at the Draft Boards to see what the consens...I look at the Draft Boards to see what the consensus is. Do we really know what is out there that are can't misses? Of course we don't. You would have to be like Mel Kiper Jr. to do that. <BR/><BR/>What I have heard is that Brian Cushing will probably drop in the draft due to alleged steroid use. He is definitely one of those guys, It hasn't been proven but he is a suspect in this. <BR/><BR/>That is why it wouldn't be crazy to move up in the draft...but only to draft a definite impact player like Curry...but that is a longshot at best.Mitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02151576898703507305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-27687604309436853182009-01-23T16:22:00.000-05:002009-01-23T16:22:00.000-05:00Mualuga can play OLB while he learns from Pierce.....Mualuga can play OLB while he learns from Pierce....SINTIM and Cushing could be gone by 29.... we already have 2 young LB's who wont be on the field next year, i havent seen anything from last years picks for me to be optimistic about. we need to draft PLAYMAKERS at LB...SINTIM "looks" like he can be that kind of guy, or the kid from Florida stateNaturehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01572689543654665669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-40956577321813893812009-01-23T16:14:00.000-05:002009-01-23T16:14:00.000-05:00ive seen a lot of the guys on nfl live talk about ...ive seen a lot of the guys on nfl live talk about DT being very tough, I wouldnt want mauluga, he's a mlb we need 2 olbs. if we trade up we would need to trade into the top 5 for curry and i would have an issue trading up that far. Why do you not want Housh? Other than LB, where do the Giants NEED someone? Draft a RB, why the hell would you draft a RB when you have the best running game in the league? Bradshaw is the small shifty fast RB and Bradshaw is the perfect compliment to Jacobs.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07755845843766074261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-17284147657159363402009-01-23T14:45:00.000-05:002009-01-23T14:45:00.000-05:00Craig - Underclassmen have declared. That's the m...Craig - Underclassmen have declared. That's the main reason the mock drafts have started coming out.<BR/><BR/>I disagree that DT is a tough transition, but I'll give you that QB is tough.<BR/><BR/>Nature - I don't think we should give away 2nd round draft picks to slide up and get Mauluga over Sintim or Cushing. I'm not knocking Mauluga, but he hasn't proven anything on the NFL level yet and doesn't grade out that much better than Cushing or Sintim. The Giants have more holes than just 1 lber position. The Giants are not a Dallas or Washington that disregards draft picks.gmen08https://www.blogger.com/profile/10255400778197142485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-83945552749632897422009-01-23T14:18:00.000-05:002009-01-23T14:18:00.000-05:00i have a problem with us not TRADING up to get a g...i have a problem with us not TRADING up to get a good LB (potentially great). we have two <BR/>2nd round picks use a 2 and the 1st to move up and get one of the better LB's Curry/Mualuaga<BR/><BR/>to me it makes no sense for us to draft D-line early. D line will be fine with the return of #72. <BR/><BR/>rookie receivers almost NEVER make a big impact.....i wouldnt mind us taking a RB if we keep all 3 of those picks, anyone who reads my post know im not a fan of the 3 back set and I think #27 is overrated. bradshaw and a young shifty quick back to go along with him would be great....and personally i dont want us to look at TJ Houshmazadah, if we can take a shot at BOLDIN, the CARDS will not put that much $$$ into the WR positionNaturehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01572689543654665669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-83143573084511244422009-01-23T14:07:00.000-05:002009-01-23T14:07:00.000-05:00how much do you wanna bet that id Matt Millen was ...how much do you wanna bet that id Matt Millen was still in charge the lions would take crabtreeCraighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07755845843766074261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-84615550908983599522009-01-23T14:02:00.000-05:002009-01-23T14:02:00.000-05:00wr is not generally regarded as the most difficult...wr is not generally regarded as the most difficult teansition, qb and dt are but wr is not easy. im not even looking at mock drafts yet because underclassmen havent even declared yet so whats the point right now. <BR/><BR/>last year's draft 5 def, 2 off<BR/>07 4 def 4 off<BR/>06 5 def 2 off<BR/>05 3 def 1 off (best giant draft ever, webster, tuck, jacobs)<BR/>04 4 def 3 off<BR/><BR/>we have been consistently drafting defense more than offense. And in the first 2 rounds since 04 6 def 4 off so even early we have been drafting def that is why we have a good young secondary. <BR/><BR/>We need a weakside lb who can cover(ahem westbrook) and a strongside for run and a few blitzes. Im not gonna write off kehl or goff yet but when your drafted that late, you usually dont end up being stars. chase blackburn is a good lb and a solid backup for pierce so im sayin draft 2 lbs early, no other position is in that much of a need OR maybe sign someone, always a possibility.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07755845843766074261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-63116269932099577132009-01-23T13:38:00.000-05:002009-01-23T13:38:00.000-05:00Some mock drafts show Cushing being available when...Some mock drafts show Cushing being available when the Giants draft. Personally, I'd love to have Cushing on the Giants. He is great at rushing the quarterback, good in coverage, and won't be phased by big pressure moments because he has played in big games his entire career.<BR/><BR/>Clint Sintim could be available for the Giants as well. He looks like an immediate impact player just like Cushing.gmen08https://www.blogger.com/profile/10255400778197142485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-35377030157748129252009-01-23T12:23:00.000-05:002009-01-23T12:23:00.000-05:00So who are the linebackers that the Giants should ...So who are the linebackers that the Giants should be looking at in the draft? Is there really anyone who will still be available where the Giants pick? Is there any chance the Giants swing a trade to get up into the top 15 or so and pick up a real star linebacker? Someone who can learn from Pierce for a year and then captain the defense for the rest of his career?<BR/><BR/>I read somewhere that someone thinks the Giants can get USC's Cushing in the first round where they are right now. Is that true? Will he be an impact player?Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01616688196635679309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-50284525745153106552009-01-23T09:56:00.000-05:002009-01-23T09:56:00.000-05:00I'm starting to agree with the notion that the Gia...I'm starting to agree with the notion that the Giants should spend their first 3 draft picks on defense. The reason I say this is because the WR position is generally regarded as the most difficult to transition to in the NFL from College. If you are a GREAT receiver (see Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson) then you will see productivity right away with year 2 being the breakout year. But there won't be anybody available for the Giants at WR that will make an immediate impact.gmen08https://www.blogger.com/profile/10255400778197142485noreply@blogger.com