tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post844592245835407853..comments2023-11-02T04:30:54.674-04:00Comments on ULTIMATENYG: Camp CommentsAndy F.http://www.blogger.com/profile/07020742034297033233noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-34613391175793478572009-08-10T23:02:21.602-04:002009-08-10T23:02:21.602-04:00Russ- we did note that Manningham and Moss both ha...Russ- we did note that Manningham and Moss both had good offseasons. And the only Giants WR I would have a mild 'value' interest in for FF stats was Manningham (because he would be available at the bottom of the FF draft). But even with that said, Peter King is a little ahead of himself. The Giants simply have enough WRs with enuf pedigree and enough oppty that SOMEONE should step out from the crowd and shine. What I am going to do is put up a poll and ask which WR shines in 2009. With all due respect to King and Manningham, my vote will not be for Manningham, although we all will be THRILLED if it turns out that he is the one who does.<br /><br />Mark- In 2007 we had the 4-headed monster of Tuck/Strahan/Kiwi/Osi rushing with their ears pinned back. Then Kiwi went down, but we got the idea we had something special. Now we have Tuck/Canty/Kiwi/Osi and you can even throw in a few others too. If this group is healthy they are going to be an Offensive Coordinator's nightmare. Imagine if Boley is healthy and rushing the QB. Or how about one of the corners. They even like Sintim as a possible pass rusher. Good Eats.<br /><br />Motown- Clearly the LBer issue dodged its first bullet with Pierce coming out unscathed. And if his words are backed up by his actions on the field, his rededication/focus could help his play a lot. I like Pierce when he plays with a little of that famous chip on his shoulder. When he was that undrafted guy who no one knew, he was great. Last year when he was the Pro Bowl guy with a ring, he was less so. Is that a coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. But however it gets done, if he ups the level of his game, he certainly removes 'some' of the LBer issues. NOT ALL of them. But enough to put the other issues up there.<br /><br />I do not have Bradshaw touches up there because either he deserves them and will get them, or if he cannot hold onto the ball and does not then Ware will get them. So I do not think Gilbride is going to be an obstacle this year to Bradshaw. I really believe Bradshaw controls his own fate.<br /><br />The lack of depth at OL certainly is at issue in the center snap exchange. Not a coincidence at all.<br /><br />Safety depth - you (regular season games) have to show me. Guys like Sam Garnes and Gibril Wilson (lower round draft picks) hit the ground running and started their first game as a pro. So it is possible these guys can come in and make meaningful contributions. It is also possible they can be liabilities. So we have to wait. It is encouraging to hear some nice comments from the coaches and media on them, but let's see what they look like in preseason games and then September.Andy F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07020742034297033233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-60205911085294696492009-08-10T21:36:22.341-04:002009-08-10T21:36:22.341-04:00Before training camp I was in agreement with Ultim...Before training camp I was in agreement with UltimateNYG with the following concerns about this team:<br /><br />The Ultimatenyg 5 issues:<br />1. LBer LBer LBer<br />2. Lack of depth at OL<br />3. Boss touches<br />4. Hixon on kickoffs<br />5. Lack of depth at S<br /><br />But I am now ranking the issues as follows:<br /><br />1) OL depth, especially center.<br />2) Boss and B'dshaw touches<br />3) Hixon on Kickoffs<br />4) Chemistry with WRs<br /><br />The center backups have been abysmal thus far and they need to make a trade and/or pick up Ruegie. Tackle doesn't scare me as much as Center and Guard.<br /><br />I laugh when I hear national media comment on Bdshaw as a "scat back at most"...just watch him in XLII take on 320 lb DT and move him for another 5-8 yards. The guy has more power than he is given credit for. That being said Gilbrown needs to utilize all the skills he has been blessed with. <br /><br />We've already discussed Boss ad naeseum.<br /><br />Hixon, ditto.<br /><br />The INTs are a concern and hope they develop a chemistry quick as Eli will get his fair share of INTs based on his innacuracy issues. Perhaps that is why they have been throwing a lot downfield early in camp.<br /><br />The LBs are coming along well with youth and more atheliticism. Kehl has been more physical and Sintim has been better in coverage than what was anticipated. I have also changed my outlook on Pierce and believe he will exceed expectations this year. You would think that the new DC would have been all over management if he believed he had a weak LB unit given his former position. <br /><br />Safety has been the strong point thus far with Phillips play, Sha'reef and the unknown Vince Anderson shining.Motown Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16218210984515633044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-42992512023487607552009-08-10T17:29:49.844-04:002009-08-10T17:29:49.844-04:00"The Giants’ defensive line ran a few plays w..."The Giants’ defensive line ran a few plays with five players in three-point stances, instead of the usual four. “We’re just getting started playing around with that kind of stuff,” Tom Coughlin said." <br /><br />NYT LaPointe's Extra Points section today 8/10Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891479114279037611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-26327787863454525712009-08-10T12:55:11.055-04:002009-08-10T12:55:11.055-04:00Forgot to mention how deserving King is of that NF...Forgot to mention how deserving King is of that NFL Hall of Fame award he got this weekend.Russ Wellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00598728646589830119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4126451417395202308.post-3686762164176356472009-08-10T12:49:27.067-04:002009-08-10T12:49:27.067-04:00Speaking of receiving, twice this week Peter King ...Speaking of receiving, twice this week Peter King has written about Mario Manningham as the answer to not only the Giants', but any team's, receiving prayers. Today, Manningham is even pictured on si.com's NFL home page beside King's MMQ.<br /><br />Yet I don't see Manningham spoken of in such glowing terms in the New York media or at UltimateNYG. Of course, King isn't a Giants beat writer.<br /><br />Do UltimateNYG readers think Manningham is poised to emerge as starter along with Steve Smith and have, as King prognosticated, a 70-catch season?Russ Wellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00598728646589830119noreply@blogger.com