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Saturday, April 25, 2009

Live Draft thread

I just got off with psycho Wonder. Had me laughing. Says that by the end of the day $nyder will end up with $anchez, and that barring Sanchez being the next Joe Montana, he will have wrecked the Redskins in the process. Between Hayne$worth and Hall (completely in$ane) and the $tupid rookie guaranteed $alary money, I do not even under$tand how he pull$ it off. If Wonder is right, it'll kill his cap for year$. Snyder needs a straightjacket, he cannot help himself.

BTW, on a separate but related topic, someone please tell me what the NFL is doing with starting this at 4PM? Money, of course, they bump a few extra dollars of tv revenue for the event. BFD. Meanwhile, this is one of the the most important times of the year for all of their franchises, and they sentence these staffs to no sleep this evening as they prepare for tomorrow at 10AM. Becuase you know they won't be done with this until 10pm to midnight, and then the work just begins with sorting through what each team has done, and figuring out who is left to ascertain what to do blah blah. Miserable creatures.

130 comments:

Daniel said...

How did the Manning bros get Matt Stafford's cell number to send him a text message? Does everyone in the NFL just have everyone else's #?

Andy F. said...

herm, on espn, cannot hurt any franchise there

Andy F. said...

kiper doesnt like tyson jackson, wonder does, he shot up to #3. tyson jackson was a rampant bull market

Justin said...

I wonder if KC just wants to take LSU's whole defense, since they've already got Dorsey to go with Jackson...

Andy F. said...

this is the spot where redskins may do something really stupid and (overpay) for sanchez

Justin said...

Jesus Christ, what has happened to Seattle's colors? That green is awful!

Justin said...

What did the Jets give up? Surely they're taking Sanchez...

Andy F. said...

great deal for the Jets, says wonder, wonder is ecstatic with the terms, gave up next to nothing

Andy F. said...

gave up a 1,2, and three players

Bass said...

Are you serious? I think the Jets gave up way too much for Sanchez.

Andy F. said...

cinc needs to take monroe, will take andre smith, and this is going to be another bad move for the bengals

Andy F. said...

oak is going to take crabtree now

Motown Blue said...

Oak is on and interesting to see where they go Maclin or Crabtree. If they take Maclin Carbtree could fall a bit further....maybe an opportunity for the Gs to move up??

Cincy is doomed again.....talk about chemistry and character!

Andy F. said...

that is INSANE!

Andy F. said...

hbey at #7,, that is INSANE!!!!

Justin said...

And the craziness begins...first Smith, then Heyward-Bey. This is going to be a weird round.

Andy F. said...

jax should RUN to the podium w crabtree!

Andy F. said...

jacksonville is roaring! kiper is 100% correct, TRADE DOWN if u want hbey

Motown Blue said...

Al's fascination with speed wins over again.....give me freakin' break Crabtree is by far the superior receiver in this draft.

They have an opportunity for some good players at this rate.

Andy F. said...

if the giants would have taken hbey at #7, I would have shot Reese- that was horrible, even if u want him, TRADE DOWN!!!!

Justin said...

HA! Was Herm responsible for the Raiders taking H-B? Too perfect.

Andy F. said...

elam and coleman are basically subs, ratliff wonder likes, so it is god deal for jets

Andy F. said...

wonder thinks giants should move up for crabtree

Andy F. said...

w hbey gone, I am happy, it means the giants arent trading up for him

Motown Blue said...

If SF passes trade with Denver to snag Crabtree....a steal at that spot, if not already!

Andy F. said...

hbey and crabtree will be linked for their entire careers, sf and oak in the bay area

Andy F. said...

SF #1 so far with Crabtree, Jets #2 with their deal for Sanchez, and an obvious last place to Oakland

Craig said...

eagles just got screwed with marano gone

Daniel said...

Redskins were real quick on the trigger to get Orakpo.

Craig said...

giants need OT

Craig said...

HAHA keyshawn just said Donald Brown needs a new couch

Andy F. said...

how about this for more oakland insanity-they will have to pay hbey 7th pick salary too... you MUST trade down, for oh so many reasons.

Andy F. said...

so far, so good for the giants, nice to see the tweeners like maybin gone, the less-rated cb's like jenkins gone. the fact that wonder has darrius butler rated ahead of jenkins does not mean anything, but so far it is a decent set up. at least we don't have to watch the giants trade up for hbey.

Daniel said...

How far down does Michael Oher fall? Do the Giants trade up for him?

Andy F. said...

orakpo needs a 4-3, not big enuf for pros, a tweener, bad pick by Washington says Wonder

Andy F. said...

oher would be very good for the giants, the skins should have taken him

Andy F. said...

denver will draft oher, the second best move of the draft

Andy F. said...

denver may take one of the usc lbers, but oher is the pick

Motown Blue said...

You know who is out there and at a great value......They have to pull the trigger and get a franchise MLB. Trade with Denver now after their target (Freeman) was snagged.

Andy F. said...

ayers is a good player, but it does not fit- denver is a 3-4, ayers is a 4-3 DE.

Mike said...

Andy--are you surprised Maclin is still available? what do you think about NYG trading up for him?

Nature said...

maclin could help the return game....not to crazy bout em

Mike said...

Maclin to the Eagles....DAMMIT!

Mitch said...

Hate it that Maclin is an Eagle

Nature said...

maclin gone...

Nature said...

he will kill in the west coast O

Mike said...

I'm afraid the Giants are gonna draft one of these guys like Nicks or Britt....neither will really help the passing game next year.

Sigh--Its still early and I still hold out hope Reese makes something happens w/Edwards or Boldin.

But if this draft ends without us getting one of those guys....Reese failed. We cant go into camp with essentially the same WR situation as last year.

Mitch said...

Maclin & Jackson, Curtis...that's a lot of speed

Motown Blue said...

In Reese we trust. Not following the crowd and not reaching to fill a need. Gotta' be a reason Maclin fell that far.

I am excited about how this is playing out so far.

Nature said...

Micheal Oher is my surprise slip....i pray the G men can get em

Craig said...

detroit will never be good, Horrible pick

Craig said...

very likely giants gets usc LB, potential problems Patriots, Dolphins, Ravens, Colts,

Bob said...

why the hell didn't we trade up to get harvin ??

Mitch said...

Harvin and Peterson...in Minny...that's a 1-2 punch

Andy F. said...

dont trade up for wr's. we look good for either a OLineman or LBer

Bob said...

Or why the hell didn't we trade up to get maclin ?

Nature said...

im think we pick NICKS if he is there....but i would love to see us get OHLER

Dave said...

You guys should try using a CoverItLive LiveBlog instead of this comment thread format the next time you want to have a conversation like this.

Nature said...

have dave this way RULES...old fashion....i still have a VCR and a cassette player

Bob said...

If Mc Nabb has time to throw the ball, the Eagles are going to be hell on turf with Maclin, Westbrook
and De Shaun Jackson.

We need to be better than them.

Dave said...

Ha, fair enough, Nature. Hoping one of those USC LBs is still there at 29...

Nature said...

giants should go up and get mualuga

Bob said...

trade up, trade up, trade up

Mitch said...

Nature...

What? No 8 Track?...lol

Mitch said...

Maualuga would be great

Nature said...

new england will take my guy Maualugaggauuaga

Andy F. said...

peria was good for us because he was a dl we were not taking. vontae davis not as good as darius butler, so we are vg now, we will have our choice of someone good, specifically one of the USC LBers(?)

Andy F. said...

the giants have the 2 LBERS, Butler, Britton, Beatty, BROWN RB Uconn, Beanie Wells, and only 3 picks are ahead of us. great if we can get one of those 2 LBers

Andy F. said...

packers trade up for ne pick, they went defense w raji, maybe they take one of the OL guys

Andy F. said...

f, maualuga only one left

Andy F. said...

matthews is the WLL, and Boley is the WLL, so the giants prob would not have taken him anyway

Andy F. said...

one pick away from maualuga? wonder thinks buf does not take maualuga. we have one of the following, maualuga, britton, butler

Andy F. said...

eric wood, lololol Wonder says Buf has no clue!!!

Nature said...

he is there ANDY cross your fingers...if the GIANTS dont take him im going to lose my DAMN mind....dont go wide REESE go MLB

Andy F. said...

I WANT THE LBer but I will take Butler

Mitch said...

Maualuga DO IT!!!!!

Andy F. said...

wonder's list: 1) Britt 2) Butler 3) Maualuga

Andy F. said...

go maualuga, for the first time in 25 years!!!

Mitch said...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Andy F. said...

uggh. the fat guy Nicks.

Nature said...

once again the giants didnt draft a LBer in the first round....im not upset with the pick but i think Mauluga would have been better

Andrew Nisinson said...

OH MY GOD! NO! REY MAUALUGA FELL TO US AND WE DID... NOT... TAKE... HIM! THAT WAS A HUUUUUUGE MISTAKE! DAMMIT!

Nature said...

SAL PAL says he caught every ball at his workout

Mitch said...

and he also didn't pass up the free lunch

Mike said...

TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE pick. I hate what Reese is doing with this draft right now.

Andy F. said...

Britt, the guy wonder wanted better than Nicks. We'll come back to see who was right. I'll bet on Wonder and the Titans.

Justin said...

OK, so now the question is: who will be left 14 picks from now? Who will take Maualuga? What LB's might be left (don't want Laurinaitis)?

PD2LISN said...

Damn, I would have been the only guy with 5 points for Maualuga!!!

Andrew Nisinson said...

I'm praying to the god of every religion that nobody takes Maualuga til 2nd rnd pick 13 so we can nab him still. That would be tremendous. If we got both Nicks and Maualuga, we'd be so bad ass going into camp. Cuz if we got rey also, we could trade kiwi, and then maybe edwards hope would be alive. But none of that is going to happen... we'll see where were at when we are picking, lol.

Bob said...

Something is very wrong with Malagula
if he fell to the second round.

Nature said...

we should come up and ge #58 from usc

Justin said...

What does Spagnuolo know that we don't?

Bob said...

Nature, yes you are right.

But it makes me wonder, why did
Spagnoli just pass on Malalaluga ???

Bob said...

we have too many late picks, use them
to trade up, NOW !!

Andy F. said...

bob- u r right, we were eating dinner, watching maualuga drop and drop, there has to be something wrong. and when laurinaitis went ahead of him, that was the final tell.

Nature said...

well guys dont say nothing when that LONG HAIR is hanging out of a BENGALS helmet in the PRO BOWL years from now

Justin said...

Poor son of a bitch -- stuck with the Bengals and the drop in value from having been taken in the 2nd round.

Bob said...

I don't understand why Reese didn't trade up to get him

Justin said...

SO who are we looking for?

Nature said...

we got sintim, look at the EARLIEST draft talk he was a guy that i talked about for the LB position in the 2nd round

Justin said...

Wahoo-Wah and all that, but who's Sintim?

Bob said...

Andy

You finally got a LB.

Is he any good ?

Why the hell aren't we trading up ?
Could have grabbed Malaluga or Britt
if we were more aggressive.

Mitch said...

all i know is he had 27 sacks for his college career

Mitch said...

Reese knows we don't have enough bucks to sign all 10 picks. He probably now will have to trade them for futures

Andy F. said...

Clint Sintim is a good OLB, but TOO SOON. NE gets Darius Butler. We had all these OL sitting there, Unger, Beatty, Loadholt. Clint Sintim is not quick or fast enough to be taken at this 45 spot. Not fast enough for OLB. Best as an inside LB in a 3-4, the tackler guy, not the cover guy. So where does he go, asks Wonder. One hope... the guy can hit and the guy can tackle. Groom him to play MLB. But certainly not able to play the Mike on 3rd down.

PD2LISN said...

Sintim was ranked as the 4th best OLB on most draft boards behind Curry and the USC backers. Solid tackler, smart, good in coverage,strong pass rush. Good choice as Reese took the best player available at a position of need.

Mitch said...

Mystified by this pick. He's a 3-4 OLB, clearly. What are they going to do with him? They already have a tweener in Kiwi. Are the Kiwi for Edwards trade rumor's true?

Andy F. said...

Wonder does not understand the draft this year. Nicks does not have height. Britt is taller and faster. Jumps higher. Nicks has more polish and better hands. Perhaps. But you cannot teach size and speed. So the homerun is the one with the most potential, and that would be Britt, whom the Titans took at 30.

As for Sintim, where does he play? if you wanted MLB, why not take Maualuga? So Wonder does not understand the Giants draft. And last point by Wonder, how can you not get Braylon Edwards?

Do you trade Hakeem Nicks and a 5th rounder for Braylon Edwards? (Rumor was that CLE wanted a 1 and 5?) Do you trade Nicks and Sintim for Edwards to get him to NY? It makes no sense to Wonder.

Mitch said...

Andy

I think the Giants do not want to pay 10 million per down the road for Edwards...that has to be it. But for my 2 cents we will go into the season without a legitimate #1 receiver...

Bob said...

seems to me that the only way to get Edwards now is to trade Kiwi.....
which I don't want to do.

We have to keep the Eagles in mind at
all times. they're building a hell of an O, and we will need a hell of a D to stop them

Bob said...

yes, and without a legitimate #1
receiver, we may have a weak O.

I keep thinking about the playoff game vs the Eagles.

Their O and our D are getting better.

However our O is on very shakey ground.

Andy F. said...

Shonn Greene RB, Duke Robinson G, Rashad Johnson S. Any of these three would make this draft good.

Andy F. said...

GO AFTER RASHAD JOHNSON

Andy F. said...

Beatty too!

Andy F. said...

If the medical issues are ok, Brinkley too. Safety is a need for the Giants. OL is a need for the Giants. Beatty or Johnson makes me happy.

Andy F. said...

Okay, Martin from Troy taken by Carolina, so all those players mentioned are ready for the Giants here at 60.

BEATTY OT
JOHNSON S
ROBINSON G

they all fit need, especially Johnson and Beatty

Bob said...

ok

pick shonn greene !

Andy F. said...

WOnder also likes Cook, the TE

Nature said...

beatty was a great pick

Andy F. said...

GOOD, they took Beatty!

Andy F. said...

very GOOD VALUE FOR bEATTY

Nature said...

now we have to get another back

Mitch said...

I'm happy with this pick

Andy F. said...

FINALLY WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE F WAS GOING ON, THAT JOHNSON AT SAFETY OR BEATTY AT TACKLE WERE FOR NEED. THIS IS HUGE HELP FOR MCKENZIE AND DIEHL. DIEHL CAN EVEN MOVE BACK TO RT AND BEATTY CAN BE YOUR LT TOO.

PD2LISN said...

Again, an area of need. Our o-line is solid, but we need to build for the future. Beatty was a good choice in this spot. I wouldn't mind a safety and another OL.

Mitch said...

Beatty is a tremendously athletic tackle who has superior feet. He moves well laterally and gets to the second level instantly. He engages on the opposition quickly and does a good job of keeping defenders at arms length. He doesn’t sustain blocks very long, but can hold his own. He displays good awareness and works well with his linemates. He’s still developing as a player, but his upside is off the charts. - Chris Steuber, Scout.com

Bob said...

I still think we should be trading up, to get S. Greene, Robinson, or Johnson.

Oxbay said...

This is in answer to Daniel and the first question posed on this thread.

I'm pretty sure the Mannings and Stafford have the same agent.

Who knows? Maybe Stafford went to their QB camp in Louisiana at some point.

Justin said...

BTW, re: not being happy with Nicks and Sintim...Reese hasn't screwed up yet and I think deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Andy F. said...

Justin- Reese is very smart and obvly has access to more info than we have. The next post, which sums up the day, addresses that point in a more macro way. We all trust Reese. I just think it was not in the cards for us for where we were picking to get a LBer to fall to us that would have been as desirable. In 3 years we will have to look back and see about Phillips, Ellerbe, Brinkley, Freeman, as potential LBers who could have been taken ahead of Sintim (and are still available). Perhaps we can find one of these tomorrow. I am mostly disappointed about not getting Edwards and then simultaneously doing what I dislike so much, committing all of these resources in the draft to WR YEAR AFTER YEAR, unrelenting.

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